Divine Mother speaks of her nature/essence, the Divine Plan/Our Plan

You have come to this life and to this incarnation with our spark of eternal, infinite divinity. You have everything you need, you make choices of this gift from the Father and I that places you beyond that either/or duality, that polarity. There is only One, and that is alignment with love. The greatest gift not only to you but to us, to all of us, is that our connection, our unified being will be more closely aligned

Graham Dewyea: Hello, and welcome to An Hour with an Angel with Linda Dillon, the channel for the Council of Love and author of The Great Awakening and Steve Beckow of the 2012 Scenario. I’m Graham Dewyea.

It’s a pleasure to be with you all. Our guest today is the Universal Mother, Mary. So, with that, I’ll pass it on to you, Steve.

Steve Beckow: Thanks, Graham. And before we begin, Linda, I think you have a few workmen at your house, and there may be a little bit of background noise. Are you okay with that?

Linda Dillon: Yes, I’m okay with that. It’s just… umm, I think I’ll have to go a little further out…

SB: Okay, well, we’ll give you a moment to go a little further out. I’ll just say a few things about the Divine Mother for our listeners.

We’re graced to have the Divine Mother’s presence today. I believe her to be and talk about her as the Universal Mother. I’ve asked for an extra half hour because I wanted to see if we could assist others to know about the Divine Mother’s nature.

So, thank you for coming, Mother. And…

Divine Mother: Greetings. I am the Mother.

SB: Thank you. Many of our listeners don’t know who it is I’m speaking to — not really. They may sense that you exist, but they know nothing of your nature. And by saying have a Divine Mother they probably suspect that I’m implying that we have a Divine Father as well. But they don’t know what makes you different, even though of course you are also the same.

Of you, Lao-tzu said, “Nameless indeed is the source of creation. But things have a mother, and she has a name.” Could you help us by saying what unites and separates you from the Father, please?

DM: What unites and separates us from what you think of as the Father and Mother is simply energy and love. It is a differentiation that we have decided upon — well, chosen, created — long, long ago, outside of time, outside of what you even conceive of as creation. It is the ability to move in and out of form. It is the ability to create and to co-create. It is the ability to be silent and to be of sound, of vibration, of movement, of sweetness.

If you were to think of the Father in terms of what you will come to understand, you would think of the Father as complete stillness, stillpoint. And in fact so often when we urge you to go to that place it is that union that you are seeking with the Divine Father, with that complete sense of simply being.

I am the creative force throughout this universe, throughout the multiverse, the omniverse, but we source each other. We source each other’s energies and we move as one and yet separate and distinct.

And you say, “Well, Mother, how can this be?” And I would say back to you, “How can this not be?” For it is that perfect balance. It is the way in which we bring forth plans, discoveries, creations, universes, galaxies, humans. It is the way in which you come to know and to have an experience of One, and with me and through me, of the One as well.

So that is the explanation I offer you.

SB: Thank you, Mother. You’ve anticipated some of my questions.

The Father is the stillness, and you are movement. I think Jesus once said that to his disciples. And the Father does not speak, if I am correct. But you are the Voice and the Silence, the Voice of one crying in the wilderness, as the Father is metaphorically represented as being. Is that correct?

DM: It is correct in your understanding and at this time. Now, that does not mean that differences cannot be experienced and created, and ways in which for you to experience the Divine Father be brought forward. But yes, your assumption and your understanding are correct.

SB: Is it also correct to say that you’re as close to the Father as one could get in terms of realization without losing consciousness of the world?

DM: I exist, and I only use that word because it is a word that you understand. I exist in and of and beyond your world or any world. And you can think of it as existing in different realms or realities. So, am I unified? What you call as close to the Father as can be? Yes, I am.

SB: All right.

DM: But I am also with you as well. So I literally bridge the realities.

SB: And if were to add to you and the Father the Father’s light embedded in the body that you created, then we would have the third member of the Trinity, would we not, the child of God?

DM: Yes. That is correct.

SB: So that is the Trinity. Now, you’re known to all religions, and I know that you’ve said something else about this which I’ll get to in a moment. You’re known to all religions as the Holy Spirit, Shakti, Prakriti, Procreatrix, Aum/Amen, the Universal Creative Vibration.

You once said to me that Shakti, the Holy Spirit, was only a small part of you. Can you explain what you meant by that? Is Shakti only limited to a certain dimension, universe or realm?

DM: No. No. When I have spoken about this with Shakti, I have spoken about a part of me. As I have said, I am the bridge, I am the clasp between the Father and the universe and your world. And Shakti has been experienced — yes, inter-dimensionally for eons as you well know. But she is not the totality of my being. My being is bigger than you can fathom, dear one. So I do not simply mean that she is an aspect manifesting. But it is simply larger than any of you can imagine, particularly at this point.

SB: All right. Thank you. Am I correct…?

DM: And as you shift, that understanding is also expanding. As you ascend that understanding and your capacity to have greater experience with and of me, and even of the Father, of the Trinity, of the One, will also expand.

So, is that not something to anticipate and to look forward to?

SB: Oh, yes. Is it correct on my part to say that Shakti is equivalent to the Holy Spirit?

DM: Yes. That would be a very good statement of clarity.

SB: All right. Thank you. So, with Ascension we will have a much more expanded experience of you and of the Father. Is that correct?

DM: Yes. That is correct. Now, it is hard — and I wish to make this straightforward, understandable, and yet I do not wish to simplify that which is unknowable. But as you go through this Ascension, as you go through this Shift, as you go through this portal, your capacity for understanding and experiences, and experience which is different than experiences also grows. So your understanding, your state of beingness expands.

Now, each of you have been expanding enormously, oh, for years, but certainly at a very rapid rate within the last year. So yes, your reference points right now for your experience of me, and for that matter of the Father as well, and even of the Company of Heaven, is limited to some of your reference points in the third dimension. And it is hard for you to transfer those into other realms because your touchstone, your experience of being in form, has been primarily — and I say primarily, not exclusively, in the third realm, in the third dimension, even within those twelve planes.
So, understand this. The greatest gift not only to you but to us, to all of us, is that our connection, our unified being will be more closely aligned. Now, you have done a wonderful job. And when I say that I say that with full understanding that there is still much debris upon your planet to be cleansed. But I say this to you, you who are listening this night. My beloved ones, children of my heart, of my being, you have done a wondrous job of letting go of the old third dimensional paradigm. You have cleansed at levels that have been unknown in thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of years. And often you will turn to me and you say, “Mother, this is not happening fast enough.” And I look at you, I observe you, I smile. And I think, and I say unto thee, “You have done work of thousands of years in a very brief period of time.”

So, are you anxious to move forward? Yes. But do not underestimate what you have already accomplished.

SB: Thank you, Mother. Now, I have two questions that are a little bit difficult, but if there are any difficulties I’ll explain them to readers on the 2012 Scenario site. The first is the — so far we’ve been talking about the Formless Transcendental Father, and yet there is also… the term Father is also used to refer to not the Formless Father but the Father in Form.

It’s very difficult to make this clear, I know, but oftentimes we’ve had Father Yahweh on Heavenly Blessings. Can you explain to us the difference between Father Yahweh and the Formless Father, the Transcendental?

DM: When I have said to you that I am a bridge, that there is a part of me, a portion of me that is unknowable, that you still have no idea of, so it is with what you call the Divine Father.

Now, Yahweh is an expression that is available for the human beings to have a knowing and to have the clarification of some of this energy. Can we say the energy that you can experience? Because, dear heart, we do not give you the totality of our being because, well, you would fall over dead.

SB: [laugh] And fry the circuits of this network.

DM: That is correct! And so Yahweh comes so that there is a voice and an energy and a way in which the human collective can know that portion of the energy of the Father that is available to them at this time. So it is the highest vibration of that Father in form, as you would call it, although it is really without form, but the form that you can give it within your hearts, your minds, your energy fields. Does this explain?

SB: Yes, it does. I found that very helpful. I have a question for you from our Hindu readers. They want to know if the gunas, the cosmic forces which are called rajas, sattvas, tamas, are the same as the Trimurthy of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.

DM: Yes. We are the same as that triad.

SB: All right. And that… and the Trimurthy of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva is a subset of the Universal Creative Vibration that you are at your essence. Is that correct?

DM: That is correct. It is much the same way as we have been speaking of. It is a way in which my beloved children can come to know me and to have that experience. It is formless, and yet it is form. It is a way of connection, and it is a way of understanding and entering into a higher vibration of being. So it helps the emergence into my energy.

SB: Sort of like stair steps?

DM: That is correct.

SB: Okay.

DM: And you have all been climbing!

SB: [laugh] All right. Thank you, Mother. Now, here’s the last difficult question. I promise I’ll make all these terms clear to the readers and listeners. The last difficult…

DM: I know you will, dear heart, for you have the gift of clarity, and very often the gift to make the translation into understandable terms for my beloved ones.

SB: Thank you, Mother. The last question is I’m trying to understand what level of enlightenment Ascension corresponds to. And I think it’s beyond the normal seventh chakra enlightenment. I think it is what is called — and I’ll make this clear to readers — sahaja samadhi. Am I correct?

DM: Yes, it is beyond what you think of with your seven chakras. It is beyond, because what you are doing with the chakra system, even with the 13, we have emerged from the 3rd dimensional realm, which is that reference point for the chakra system, into the new. So yes, you are correct, in this question and in this statement.

SB: Sorry, I am overwhelmed to hear you say that. It’s wonderful to have that confirmed. Thank you very much, Mother. Perhaps I can now turn to the…

DM: It is wonderful for us as well, you know!

SB: Is it? How so, Mother?

DM: As we move beyond what you think of in your realm as emotion, but that does not mean that the pervasive love and joy is not felt as we participate, witness, move and assist and beckon you forward.

SB: Thank you for that. Now, you said that the experience, the enlightenment experience is beyond the 13 chakras, but you didn’t actually say yes or no to my question of whether this experience corresponds to sahaja samadhi, the permanent part of…

DM: Yes.

SB: It does?

DM: That is correct.

SB: Oh, eureka! Thank you, Mother! I’m so happy to have that confirmed. Well, why don’t we move…

DM: Now, you understand that most people, and yes, you will do a good job of explaining, have no conception of what this really means.

SB: Well, you know that I have a website that discusses sahaja samadhi at length. If I — and that’s from Sri Ramana Maharshi, more or less — if I take that material and present it to readers, would that be….

DM: That will help.

SB: It…. Is…. Could you refer us to other saints like Sri Ramana Maharshi who have explained this well, and maybe…?

DM: No.

SB: No?

DM: We do not want people reading hither and yon. This will be more than adequate.

SB: All right.

DM: And what we want you to do is simply allow the experience to occur and to expand. It is never an intellectual process regardless, dear one.

SB: Thank you. Yes, of course. Well, why don’t we turn to the substance of the show in terms of contemporary events? I think people are very much wanting to hear from you your estimation of the soul called Barack Obama. Is he an evolved soul? Is he a vital part of the master plan for the Golden Age, or is he not?

DM: There are so many questions about leadership on your planet at this time. And… yes, Barack Obama…. There is a plan, as there is a plan for all. So, understand this, because what I do not wish you to infer is that there is a hierarchy. And you know I have been very emphatic about this.

SB: Yes, yes Mother.

DM: But let us say… Barack Obama is an untarnished soul, and that is a rare thing. Now, that does not mean that he has not been influenced or had the human experience of the lower vibrations or the experience of mis-stepping or losing his way. But there has been an agreement that, like each of you — understand this — there has been an agreement about this incarnation and about the role that this one would play in the restoration, yes, and the Ascension and the anchoring of Nova Earth, and particularly in the restoration of hope, as I have defined it.

So, is he part of this plan? Absolutely. But do not place him either to the side and say, “Well, that is politics and therefore inconsequential.” Do not place him on a shelf or an altar, because that would be incorrect as well. For this one stands with you, with each of you, as do many; but this one in particular.

So, is he a brother and what Michael would call a warrior? Yes. But so are you. Each of you. And many of you are learning, even now, as I speak to you this night, what that meaning is to be the warrior, to stand in the truth of your being and your knowing in alignment with me.

My beloved ones, I know, this has not always been straightforward or easy. And there is not one of you that has not at one moment had a shadow of doubt or a hint of despair — not one of you! And of course that is because you have been shedding the old.

So also know that Barack Obama is also shedding the old and is emerging in a different way, as each of you are. But to dismiss this one and say that he is not part of my plan — well, dear ones, you might as well look in the mirror. None of you are dismissed. May you make choices of this gift from the Father and I, of free will, yes, but most of you have entered into this place of alignment, which, if you truly understand what I am saying to you, places you beyond that either/or duality, that polarity. There is only One, and that is alignment with love.

So it is beyond choice. That is the entirety of what you think of as this experience, and certainly the experience of Ascension. It is entering into the place of complete love. So what you do, and what you have done, so many of you already, you have eliminated that word but. And I am pleased to see that.

SB: Mother, I know there’s a lot of listeners who’d like me to ask you about Barack Obama’s past lives or where he comes from. But I’m not sure that that would be helpful for people who listen to this program without our background, so I’m passing over that kind of question. But I do want to know: Was Barack Obama born in Hawaii?

DM: Yes, that is correct. The difficulty that so many have…. Well, first of all, there has been a great deal of lower level vibration and interference and sabotage with this information. And that is part of what has led to confusion. Do not buy into that, dear heart.

So, yes, I confirm this, but I also say part of the difficulty that so many have had in pinning down the birth spot of this one is because this one emanates from a very high vibration.

SB: Would it be helpful…

DM: You do not need to understand it; you need to accept this. And no, it would serve no purpose. And I will tell you why we do not discuss the planetary alignments that this one has or the past lives on Earth — which have been many and, yes, have prepared him well for this role.

The reason I choose not to discuss it in detail is because of each of you. So you would say, “Well, he has been thus,” or “He has been this person or that person,” or he is Pleiadian or Arcturian or Venusian. And then you would say, along with that, you have certain expectations. And then you also say, “Well, he has had a privileged past,” which is not the case. This one is fully a warrior.

And what it does is when you look at others that way, whether it is yourself and your listeners this night looking at you, Steve, or Barack, and they say, “Yes, but they have a greater understanding, and I am not quite there,” and, dear hearts, that is simply not so. You have come to this life and to this incarnation with our spark of eternal, infinite divinity. You have everything you need, even when you have had difficult circumstances, horrendous experiences, privileged upbringing. It matters not.

Because this has been part and parcel of my plan and your plan within my plan. Have there been some detours and variations? Yes. That does not cancel or change the plan. We have infinite capacity to adjust, and adjust we have and we will.

SB: Thank you, Mother. Just before… well, turning to the Plan a few questions down the line, was Barack Obama’s birth certificate doctored?

DM: Yes.

SB: So the accusations against Barack Obama that his birth certificate is false, they really do apply to the people who actually doctored the certificate to give rise to these suspicions. Is that true?

DM: That is correct.

SB: All right.

Now, finally, before we leave Barack Obama, I think, it’s my own personal suspicion that a lot of lightworkers have seen a lot of smoke which has been generated by people with ill will against Barack Obama, but they’ve assumed that there’s fire because there’s smoke.

Could you address this flood of negative propaganda against Barack Obama and perhaps address the lightworkers who are convinced that something’s wrong with the President, please?

DM: But you have already addressed it. You have called this propaganda. Now, I am not suggesting to you or to any being, lightworker, love-holder, or human citizen of the planet, that I wish to interfere, over-ride, over-light, your choices and decisions of what you choose to believe. But what I am suggesting is that if you go into your heart, forget the smoke and go into your heart and simply look — do not tell me you are not capable of this! Of course you are! Simply look at this energy and then decide.

The greatest smokescreens are created against those who have the greatest potential to hold and to spread and to effect light in the birth of the new. And it does not matter, you know, whether you re-elect Barack Obama because you believe that he is of the light or whether you turn to some other choice that has been steeped in drama — let me put it that way — because it will not change the light quotient that this one holds upon the planet for the collective.

So, we are not trying to affect the outcome of an election; we are telling you that whether this one is in or out of office, his role does not change. And it will not change. The same, dear heart, can be said of you, because we want to keep bringing it back to each and every heart. If there are many — and there are — who nay-say your work and what you believe and know in your beingness, it does not change the quotient of light that you hold.

Has it caused some redirection sometimes? Yes. But it does not change you. If anything, what happens is the dogged determination, the fortitude, the prudence, the patience grows.

This is not a time of defeat. That is of the old. And of course that is why there are so many who wish to cling to the existing old paradigm that is crumbling even as we speak. It is a heap of debris. And yet they insist on sitting or clinging to this heap of ashes. They may do so. But it does not change what the lightholders, the love-holders, the gatekeepers, the pillars, the portal workers, it does not change what they are doing.

SB: Well, thank you for mentioning the gatekeepers and pillars, Mother, because I was going to ask you about that. And maybe I can do that now, given what you’ve just said.

Can we know more about the early Ascension of the gatekeepers? Which is a matter that Archangel Michael has been dropping hints about for perhaps the past year. Who will the gatekeepers be? What is it necessary to have achieved in terms of light absorption to successfully be a gatekeeper? And what is a gatekeeper?

DM: A gatekeeper is one who assists a variety of people — human beings, hybrids, starseeds, collective — that is assisting people through the portal of Ascension, through the doorway, think of it that way, of Ascension. So, they are those. And some are cognizant of this shift, some are partially cognizant of this shift, and some are oblivious, even as yet, to this shift.

The gatekeepers are those who have either gone or are going early, if you would put it that way, through the portal of Ascension. Now, many of them think, well, no, that has not happened because they have not fully anchored and experienced a new interdimensional reality. Now, some of them have. For those who are not experiencing it, partially it is because they may not reach back into the third. They may just simply wish to stay there and be happy with their altered, new realm.

But it is those who are entering into the fifth and higher dimensional realities to reach back and assist those who are underway. You have this concept that it is one day when everything is taking place, and that is not so. It is a process that we have put in place, and there are many, many helpers. And the gatekeepers are those interdimensional helpers to assist those making the transition, so that a great number, a great percentage of the human or Earth population will be well underway in this process.

Because, as you know, then there is the issue of those who are not simply — how has Michael put…? — sitting on the fence, but behind the fence, and in fact in the wilds of the third dimension.

So, that is the role of the gatekeepers. It is to help people build their quotient of light and of love so that they may proceed smoothly.
Now, you ask, what is the requisite or prerequisite to be a gatekeeper? Well, the prerequisite is that you decided to be a gatekeeper long before you came, long before even this incarnation. So this has been a plan and a preparation that the gatekeepers have gone through throughout many incarnations both on and off Gaia. So that is the role of the gatekeepers.

Now, one of the ways, in fact the… one of the primary ways in which a gatekeeper assists is not through what they are simply saying. Yes, that can be part of it. But it is through their energy field, it is through that expanded field and the acceptance of more and more light and love. And what you are seeing with the gatekeepers is that they have left the highs and lows, what you have referred to as the troughs and waves, they basically are leaving or have left this behind.

They have made peace with the third dimension and with their lives. So they are in a place of beingness, of wholeness. And they are able to communicate that vibrationally, through their frequency, through who they are, to masses — and I do mean masses, millions — of people.

So, is the contingent of gatekeepers within the millions? No. No, it is a very specific role. And so we want to be clear about this. So that it is not that everyone who is ascending what you think of as prematurely, what we think of as on time, not everyone who is going through the portal is a gatekeeper. Some are simply anchoring that collective energy of inter-trans-dimensionality. And that is a different job as well. And it is a very important and crucial job.

Then there are the pillars, the stalwart warriors. And you will notice that many of these are of Michael’s retinue. They tend to be very strong. And they remain through this process upon the planet, as you can see [ ? ]. Because most of your conceptions are still tied to the, what we would call the clean, the higher, realm of the third dimension. And they are standing there to assist those to complete this process with Gaia.

Now, you tend to think of as Gaia only being in the 5th, but understand that is why we keep using this term of inter- and trans-dimensionality, so that even as Gaia has ascended there can still be the pillars assisting in the 3rd to help push and hold and complete.

Think of it. They are facilitators for those who are the most… stubborn. And they will also assist — the pillars, that is — they will assist with those and they will work in conjunction not only with my realm, but other realms as well, other realities, with those who simply refuse that free choice to accompany me or anyone into that higher realm.

So they will insure that those who wish to continue in an alternate dimension in the 3rd, the 4th, that do not want to be part of this process — because that is really what it is about, it is the refusal to come along — and so they will also insure that that relocation has been completed. And then, of course, they will join us in the grand celebration in what you think of as the 5th dimension. Is this clear?

SB: Yes, Mother. Although there is one part I’d like to return to and just make sure that listeners understand it. You talked about Ascension as a process and Ascension as an event. And you said that not all people will ascend on a certain day. But people will ascend on a day, is that not correct? In other words, we are in a process of ascending, but at some point we actually ascend, and that will be on whatever day is appropriate to us. Is that not so?

DM: That is correct.

SB: All right. It’s not as if there won’t be an Ascension event. Okay. Thank you. And that was a lovely, full discussion, Mother, and I’m sure people will benefit from it.
I’d like to seek more information from you now on what we know as the Divine Plan. Now, the Divine Plan for Ascension, the Divine Plan for life — there’s a Divine Plan for all of it. Can you, for our listeners who are unfamiliar with the notion of there being a Divine Plan, can you discuss this — perhaps the Divine Plan for this Ascension, please?

DM: I would be very happy and honored to discuss the Divine Plan. And yes, the Divine Plan for Ascension. And your Divine Plan. And I do not simply mean you, Steve. I mean everyone who will ever listen to this broadcast. Because, my beloved children, it is important, essential, that you understand not just cognitively but deep within your core that not only are you part of the Divine Plan, of the Divine Plan, but that you, within that, have your Divine Plan; that you are critical, and what you think of as worthy enough, important enough, and always have been; that you have a Divine Plan.

Now, so often upon this planet, this beautiful planet of Gaia, there have been so many varying opinions about the Divine Plan and your Divine Plan. And so, before I speak of Ascension, let me speak of this.

There are so many of you that rejected the notion of your Divine Plan and the Divine Plan, because you wanted to be in charge, that you did not want to think that you were simply a puppet in a pre-arranged theatre; that the free will and free choice was exclusive to you, and that you could vary and go as far as you wanted in terms of what you choose to do; that nothing was fated.

Well, you’ve tried that, haven’t you? And in so many situations it has caused war and mayhem, lack and separation. The Father and the Father through I have never dictated to you how you will unfold your plan. But make no mistake about this. You, in conjunction with All — and think of that — not only with your guides but with your grid, with your collective, with the universe and with us, have chosen your plan.

Now, even in the human realm it is beyond comprehension that you would not wish to align and to do this. And that is why your heart yearns and directs you to undertake certain actions, thoughts, behaviors, directions. And that is why when you are doing certain things and moving in certain directions you know your joy. You say, “I feel happy! I feel like I am on track!” It is because you are within the unfoldment of your plan, and your plan is magnificent! It is the full expression, particularly in this incarnation, of who you are, of your unique spark. So, do not underestimate your plan within the grander plan.

Now, I cannot speak to you about the totality of the Divine Plan. You would think that I was speaking in an intergalactic language, and chances are some of you would understand, but the majority of you would not. But I am most certainly pleased and honored to speak to you about the plan for Gaia, for the human collective and for Ascension at this time. And for that I bring you back. I bring you back to the beginning.

The Plan was for you to inhabit a form and to know and be love and joy, diverse, unique, flexible. The Plan was for you to be inter- and trans-dimensional. Did you wander and take some of those scenic by-ways, those detours that I have referred to this night? Yes. And that free will, with all the elements of what you think of as evil and darkness, drama, intrigue — you have excelled at this! And you are also very tired and sick of it, aren’t you?

So, now, you return to that alignment of beauty, of truth in form. And this is what is unique about this element of the Divine Plan, that you are holding on to these magnificent forms, what you think of as bodies. And part of that, beloved ones, is admiring and cherishing and loving your body, because you designed it, you chose it. Yes, you were part of the architectural team.

Is it transferring into a different molecular base? Yes. But your bodies, to take your bodies and be in the higher realms, where you have always belonged, and let go of those densities, that quagmire that you got stuck in — for a very long time! — now is the restoration of the Divine Plan. And it is for you to be the embodiment of love. It is you, each of you, bright angels, starseeds, gatekeepers, humans, Earth-keepers, to have a physical experience of being that embodiment of love.

This was part of the plan, the part that involved you and this planet and the ripple effect out to the multiverse, of your star brothers and sisters. Why do you think they wish to participate, to witness? This is highly unique. The humans are going to be transdimensional in form, after all this time. They are going to embody love and the Divine Qualities. It is worth having a look at. It is worth participating in.

So our attention, to use a human word, our essence, to use my terminology, is being brought to bear upon this unfoldment of shift in the consciousness. This is not unconscious, this is not subconscious. So this is a conscious process, an event, if you choose, and it is also, at the same time, the consciousness, as you know, of the heart fully awakening, of the spirit fully awakening, of the soul fully awakening and anchoring in form.

Now, when I say I bring our focus to this, is it all of our focus — the Father and mine? Of course not. But the energies that are brought with what you think of as the Company of Heaven, the ascended ones, and the Father and I, is far beyond your comprehension. And it is certainly adequate to accomplishing this transition. And as this transition is completed, including the shift in your structures, then you will continue on.

This is the beginning, not the end. Each of you, each of you is infinite and eternal. Will the day come in terms of what you think of as time, when you will simply re-emerge? Yes. But even that is infinite.

So the Divine Plan, let me be very concrete with all of you, is to leave the old 3rd behind. You are making peace with it and therefore with yourself, your families, your community, your planet. Even as we speak it is leaving that behind as if you would leave a cloak or an old skin behind, activating as you do different markers of your DNA, becoming more capable of holding the higher frequencies — and most of you are well underway; some of you are completely done — new form, but still looking as you do, or how you choose to appear, because that is part of interdimensional reality. As you activate different markers within your DNA, within your crystalline form, you may restore yourself to 22 or be 75 — it matters not. And in that form, you will be the embodiment of love.

Yes, this channel has joked about this transition from carbon to crystalline. Why do you think we have been so emphatic with her about working with the diamond energy, asking each of you? It is part of this transformation. Does this answer your question?

SB: It certainly does, Mother. And again I have to tell listeners what a joy it is to work with you, because you answer my questions before I ask them. And it makes my job very easy.

I want to confess that I’m one of those people who have said I’m not going to be a puppet and follow a Divine Plan! I have my own free will in the matter. And then I have another thought, that I really am, at essence, the Father. So, this really is my plan!

DM: That is correct. And that is the wisdom emerging. It is the maturity of the soul to know. It is the immature — and we would say adolescent, but very often adolescents are far more mature than adults — but shall we say the spiritual young one who fights and thinks that there is a controlling authority. There is not! It is — and that is why I have put the emphasis; this is not just the Divine Plan, this is your plan.

SB: Absolutely. Now, this is the first mass Ascension in which people have ascended with their physical bodies, as I understand it. What difficulties has that presented to the Company of Heaven, and what have they learned from this experiment?

DM: Well, it has been a trial. We will… because part of this, in terms of, yes, mass Ascension, with the body, there has been a great deal of house cleaning, of the clearing of debris within every — all of your bodies, not simply your physical body, because everything has need to be pristine, or pristine to a quotient to hold the energy. It has been more complex because we will not and have not over-ridden free will.

So very often, for example, we will see and we work, obviously, with individuals and collectives. That is a big part of the Company of Heaven’s work at this time. And that is what I mean when we say we bring our focus to you.

The biggest piece has actually been the belief systems and the eradication of false belief systems and emotional trauma and debris. Now, we cannot say that these are compartmentalized, because they are more like wave actions that run continually through you. And therefore these strands, even for each of you, as you have done your work, hard to grasp, because it is in constant movement because you are of my being.

So understand, this has been a challenge. Insurmountable? Of course not. But working with and leaving intact this element of free will has been the biggest task of this entire process. That is one of the reasons it is exceptionally rare. And when I say that, you have need to understand the magnitude of what I speak — that we use what we have called with you containment. And that has been also part of this very intense penetration of certain elements of Gaia, of humans on Gaia, so that it would not only give those in containment the opportunity to ascend, but also that their discordant energies would not be interfering with those doing their work. You have not thought of that piece of it.
SB: No.

DM: When the Father and I amplified the love that we were sending you, and continued to do so, into each of you, these laser beams of love and light, it was considered that this would be adequate for transition for so many. But as we have seen, that free will can be very petulant. And so we have intensified everything — everything! — that we are doing with you.

That is why so many of you feel either that it is very intense, high anxiety, looking over your shoulder, or completely disconnected. Now, those of you who have already gone through this process are more at peace. But simply understand, the effort, the focus has been intensified in the last week or so. So do not think, my beloved ones, that you are out of synch. If you are feeling this intensity it is because you are fully in receptor mode.

SB: Mother, if I may intervene for a moment to ask you a question in regards to what you’ve been speaking about, we talk about things like changing the human body from carbon-based to crystalline or introducing a new wrinkle in the Ascension plan in that we ascend with our bodies, how are changes like these effected? Sometimes it’s said that God thinks and his thoughts create changes. Is there any way to explain to us how these monumental changes are being brought about that we could understand?

DM: Yes. That expression, “God thinks,” the, as you know, the idea behind that is that there is divine thought and therefore it is, and that is a very… it is a good way to think of it or conceive of it. But let us suggest to you that God, the Unity, the Trinity, All, creates, and then it is. And when we do this, it is with you as well. So it is not that there is Divine thought and then everything changes. There is also an element of your participation, because you are part of that creation, of that co-creation, of that thought.

So, are we changing the carbon to crystalline form? Yes, but so are you. And we have had many of you do work with your form and with your DNA. Some of you are still thinking this is a foreign concept. That is all right. It is being implanted in you even as we are speaking this night.

SB: Then could we take this instance of a change in the Plan from Ascension out of the body, Ascension beyond the body, to Ascension with the body, could we take that instance and could you trace it down from yourself through the various levels to us? Can you indicate the various channels you send it down through? We hear terms like “the highest Universal Council,” or we hear terms like “the Elohim.” How did this thought or command come down from God to us?

DM: This command, yes, of course. Now think of it as rays of the sun. Sometimes you will look at the sun and you will see beams of sunlight. And so the command, as you have put it, has gone, yes, to the Company of Heaven, to the Elohim, to the Seraphim, to the Cherubim, to every level, through the Council, through many of the Councils. But that beam, that central beam, has also come directly from our heart to you. And that is a unique aspect of this Ascension.

SB: All right. And when this beam comes out and comes to the Elohim and then the Seraphim, do… how are they aware of it? It’s not like a letter; it’s not like they receive a letter from God. How does it show up for them? How does it manifest for them?

DM: The closest way that you can conceive of how, for example, the Elohim would receive it, it would be as an instantaneous energy transmission into them that would be an expansion — even though they have always known, because it is part of the plan and they are aware of it — but it would trigger, “All right, now it is time for, also, for us to be beaming.” So that it is not just the direct beam; they start to work with the various levels down to the human collective to also implement this aspect of the plan in what you think of as your now.

SB: All right. Well, they certainly know, I’m sure the Elohim and the Seraphim know that this is God’s will. But we, we probably don’t know it’s God’s will. We may feel moved to do something, or inspired to do something. How… how… how can we know that we are being directly communicated with or inspired?

DM: It goes to following, listening, trusting, holding love in your heart. And yes, with the totality of your being, not just with a portion of your being. It’s time for you to all work with the totality of your being, and discerning, not judging, ever, whether something is a whim or truly an inspiration. The sense that you receive and how you know is this feeling of, “Ah!” expansion, of this urge that is driven and uncontrollable, because you know it is part of your joy. And if it does not feel like joy, then it is simply a random human thought. So turn away from it and allow that alignment with you and with All to truly fill you. We have not made this — yes, it sounds complex, but it is not complex. It rests within you to know, and it rests in that sense of being, not of thinking, but of knowing.

SB: I would assume that bliss goes along with this. Can we.… We only have a few minutes left, can we turn to the subject then which seems a natural subject in relation to what you just said, of the voice in the heart, of the guidance that comes through the voice in the heart? Can you…. What you have been talking about surely is the way that the heart expresses God’s will, is it not?

DM: Yes, it is.

SB: Could you discuss that for our listeners somewhat, please?

DM: All of you, and all of humanity, and in fact far, far beyond, have been equipped, implanted, however you wish to think of it, with the knowing not only of One will, of our will, of God’s will, but of your ability and your ultimate choice to align with that will. And it is that knowing within your heart.

Now, many of you have come to a place where you do not fully incorporate that or understand it or, yes, trust it in a very human, 3D way. But when you allow yourself to simply be and to listen, it is not only your voice, it is our voice, it is the voice of many speaking as one. The more time and practice — because it is a diligence — that you take to truly be in connection with the inner knowing, the voice, the closer you are to us and we to you. It is all that there is. And it is you, dear heart.

Go with my love … and come to me as I come to you. Farewell.

SB: Thank you, Mother. Many people will benefit from this discussion. Thank you.

DM: You are welcome.

Channeled by Linda Dillon 10-15-12

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